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Rex Lassalle introduces the beginning of the Orinoco Flows and how he came to practice with the 9 Star Ki and the Child Star–a means to create oxytocin in our bodies and connect to our soul, and thus creating more joy and health in our lives. Lena comes to us with many gifts, talents and skills. She will share stories about the rituals she engaged in to come into relationship with her Child Star element. She carries a continuing contact with nature through her natural horsemanship that continues to bless her many healing gifts. Rex will share how the community of Orinoco Flows will be a community where people can come to know the ancient teachings of the 9 Star Ki with Indigenous innovations and apply it to their emotional health and wellbeing.

Transcript:
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he
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this presentation here now um I will be chatting with Lena but before I do that
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um I want to share as regards what the Orinoco flows is about what this
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community is about the dreams the the mission statement with orinoko flows is
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that it is about um mothers and Children and Families
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being connected with their child St to to have them have that experience in
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their life this is what we are about and the orinoko
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flows it’s linked to a river it has um
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deep links for me with my ancestral line and since we have started this
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project many of us well Sarah and Christiana and myself have had
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experiences which are not quote unquote something you would normally expect and
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it arises from that and the Orinoco flows
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is really a healing space and in the presentations that we
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do in the recordings that we make this can occur for for people listening to it
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being present with it so give yourself the opportunity to have it as an
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experience that you’re a part of rather than just an intellectual process of
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words from me or thoughts from me um the space itself carries that and the
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intention about what this is about is about that and connecting people with
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their child star with women with your child star and especially around the birth experience and childhood and
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families that this link becomes accessible and it’s quite simple and it
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facilitates better communication with the subconscious mind
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so thank you for your interest in this thanks for being here um before I I’m
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going to do a meditation here this evening but before that I want to talk a little bit about how all of this really
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is for me as regards how it really began yes I shared about the experience with Lena
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and the treatment and the whole um devotional aspect and what transformed
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for her but before that it’s my childhood and in my childhood here it
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was growing up as a child in Trinidad in a place in portter Spain called Belmont
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Bel want is a very sort of rootsy place especially the Valley Road where I grew
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up and it was a strong community and everybody knew everyone and the elders
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have a big had a big influence on one and you know you would be going around
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as a I’d be going around as a child with my friends and we go into a yard and um
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we say good morning or if you don’t see it properly they will call you you and if I start speaking the queen’s English
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they would call me about it and would remind me that my mother doesn’t speak that way neither does my father and who
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do you think I am so the dialect was always there by the way my parents both knew the queen’s English but at home it
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was a dialect that was spoken So within that
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context my parents certain things would occur in the day like the grasshopper
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would appear and my mother would say da d da da d d will happen as a child
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growing up I would say well you know how you could say that why you say that you would say child don’t ask stupid
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questions just watch you will see and so it was the aspect of cutting out the
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logical mind as regards experiences or communication was embedded in me because
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that was how it was my father had the capacity to they were both at 100%
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and so I grew up with this education which was at 100% I didn’t sort of
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connect with it in that way then but as you know as life has continued and the
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years have passed when I connected with the nine star
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key this started to switch on as I mentioned um I didn’t believe the stuff
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I was reading I viewed it as a historical um document and it was only um in August
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1979 when M baton was assassinated things was like this is
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relevant now this is not just about history because you know from the
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instructions there’s an whole aspect of Direction ly which is part of the nin star key and everything was spot on as
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regards such a thing could possibly happen moving in that direction Etc so
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I’m sharing that here or mentioning that as regards so when you know you’re
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listening when you’re here in the space about the oroo flows rather than try to work it out
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rather than try to come from a logical mind what I want to invite you is to
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have a feeling about it to have an experience of like how this feels sometimes it may
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feel like wow wow or sometimes I guess it may feel like I’m not so sure just
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give that space because that will allow you in a way to speak about it as if
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you’re sitting in a restaurant that will allow you to taste what is present
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rather than wonder what is in the menu drop what is in the menu and be more
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with what the experience is as regards what you’re tasting or what you’re experiencing this would be a more um how
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best to put it relevant way of dealing with it so thanks for hearing me with
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that I’m going to start now um with the meditation and the meditation is linked
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to the orinoko the actual River and um before I begin I want
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to make a suggestion that as you listen to me have
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a sense of letting go at the back of your navl like giving your sense more
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space at the back of your nav have a sense of your feet being flat
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on the ground wherever you are on on the floor wherever you are just
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flat and with your feet flat on the ground have a sense of a softness in the
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arches of your feet um allow your breathing to be
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comfortable and easy this sort of attitude towards your body
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facilitates allowing you to access the Alpha Brain Wave frequency with your
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listening so um I just want to suggest that as something to do you could close
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your eyes you could have your eyes open that choice is yours so here we
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are standing at the spring of Where the
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orinoko River begins in Venezuela it’s up on the
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mountains and we are standing there it’s in the afternoon in Venezuela
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now it’s around like 3:00 a bit after 3:00 it’s in the northern
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hemisphere um there’s some blue skies I you know my senses there are some clouds
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around but we are standing there allow
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yourself to be present to the sound of
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the orinoko however that is for you have a sense of when you’re
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listening there’s a sound of a river and the water coming out from this spring at
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the top of this mountain and you are standing there
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that uplifting energy of the water streams into your
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being you feel it rising from your feet
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through your ankles up into your knees into the pelvic area up along your
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spine creating a greater sense of spaciousness and then it eases also so
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into your arms up through your neck and it rolls over the crown of your head so
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you are embodied in the experience of the orinoko that Spirit of that river is now
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part of who you are is now part of your being there and allow that to start
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creating more space in your being a sense of more space in this sense of a a
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greater feeling of letting go of
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allowing of feeling of giving yourself permission to
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have a smile on your face of giving yourself permission to
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feel some Joy moving in your heart giving yourself permission to
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opening up to new possibilities in life giving yourself permission to also
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have a sense of being right here standing a healing process can begin for
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you whatever that is in whatever at whatever level be is it be it physical
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be it mental be it emotionally be it spiritually be it at
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some ancestral level be it at whatever level here
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standing at the beginning at the origin of the orinoko
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we are being nourished we are being
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blessed with this energy of this water the
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companionship that the orino is offering is present for
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us give that room give it space allow it
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to continue even when we end this
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my presentation about it even when we end this meditation that it can still be
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there in your at at a cellular level in your being it can still remain
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nourishing you because it is always there the
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orinoko river is always there having access to it this moment
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that I’m sharing in this med ation meditation gives you that key to have
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access to it thank you very much thank you orinoko
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thanks for your listening thanks for being present thank
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you welcome back to wherever you are stay where continues to
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FL and that
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music being it’s an embodiment of the or
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no it’s a composition and aranged by my
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cousin greig who has a connection with dead Oro
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because my grandmother Flora is his great is also part of his of of her
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being is Al his grandmother also so there we are
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listening let’s enjoy some music it’s also the whole thing about feeling it’s
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whole the whole aspect of this being a dynamic experience for us rather than
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just I BL blah BL the whole evening so let’s listen to some music and let that
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be us thank you
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w
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oh
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thank you Christiano thank you welcome and um before I begin
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chatting with l I also want to thank Sarah and Cristiana because they are the
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ones who have drawn me in and especially
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Sarah right at the beginning Rex you got to bring this information out you got to share it with people because she saw the
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benefits in her own practice so thank you and Sarah and Christiana has a lot
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to offer CU they work in the cranial sacr area are and the whole aspect of Perry
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and prenatal these things would be shared in the new year with our presentations so
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thank you both Lena
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welcome how are you this evening I’m fine thank you okay thanks
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for making the time to join us and um
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and last week you asked me a provocative question about love and and then I
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responded about devotion and um we can talk some more about that um or if you
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had some other aspects to tell me or to suggest or
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whatever no when we’re talking about it was was I was asking you where you come
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from when you when you suggest things ah and if it was from love or if
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it was from another aspect or another Direction okay and you didn’t really
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answer that did you no I will answer it now
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yeah um Lena bring me back to the school situation because these were the this
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was the type of environment that I taught in where they would you know say but you didn’t answer it as yet whatever
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so I’m very familiar with this way of interacting um where I come from with my
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work or with if I’m with a client or with a you know just chatting or sharing
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things with a friend um basically it
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is supporting I come from a place of supporting um
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with an attitude of care and that is not just in my head
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that is really in like my energy field so it has a there’s a quality of caring
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that is just um present as regards of that is love yes I think inherently it
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is love but at times I have to drop back
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from that and be in a place of devotion because sometimes even though that is the itude or the energy that I’m
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carrying at times um I can be in situations where who I am or how I’m
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presenting myself um there’s a lot of judgments around that so rather than I react to
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that um I just come from devotion I smile I um give space to whatever may be
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going on so I stay in a way devoted to a commitment to be
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compassionate in the situation okay that is um that that that is always easy no
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it isn’t always easy but at least that is my intention so
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yeah um I’d be a bit more specific to answer your question with how I can be
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in situations where you know um how I’m
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presenting myself or who I am is difficult this has come up especially in the last um eight years 10 years and
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predominantly so in the last five six years and that
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has a lot to do with um because some people who are quite
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sensitive spiritual or whatever would be the right word with that at times my
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energy there’s a lot of ancestral energy around my being and that disturbs
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them and I’m then told to send them to the light whatever that
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mean so in that context they not realizing that you know
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it’s nothing to do with me they have come I mean like you know the prison experience you know my uncle was there
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in the cell then when I was coming out the prison blood came out from my left nipple so it’s like part of my
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biological experience but some people pick up on that so that indigenous part
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has become just more quote unquote for some people more prevalent and I’m I have to own it it’s not something I can
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step back from so hence devotion is Where I Come From because
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um and I need to talk more about that and write more about that and I’m not
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coming from any anger or bitterness not at all um it’s just there’s that level of ignorance in the world at at times
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you have you’d have to deal with these kind of things so that’s my inep
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and I want add something Rex just because I have Insider’s
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information okay um with I remember the Cliffhanger that Lena asked last week
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and I know your place of devotion because you’ve shared that with Sarah
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and I through the Journey of this development of oronoko flows but soon as
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she asked that question again today I I smiled and I laughed almost like I have a secret in my
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heart because I know too that right now the place that you come from a lot in
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your work is with this child star that you have been embodying the
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nine star key and with your devotion and the information that you have learned
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from it and how you’ve been gifting it you know to to clients
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and um now how we’ve been gifting it to women in particular and in in the
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birthing communities this relationship that you can have with your subconscious mind so I was just
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curious more about sharing with others our secret about the oroko and this
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child star as it applies to your work and where you’re going with it you’re talking to me or are you
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talking okay okay all right um so it’s really about I mean there’s
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so much um guidance that is present and yes um you know I have books written
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about the nin star key all of that but there’s much more and the healing aspect
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about it is so present um and so and I have to also
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mention mysterious I I’ll today I went for a well I go for a walk most days and
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when I went for this walk I went down by there’s a a jetty where I walk at times
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and um for the first time and I’ve been walking there for about the last five
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years I you know that Jetty sees me at least once twice sometimes five times a
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week and for the first time I saw a lot of birds be it Ducks of birds on the
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water like easily more than 200 and I was just this was a big
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surprise to me I never saw that before sometimes of course there are swans that I see this was like that and
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then I walked away I sort of quote unquote like did um I did like a
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offering to the water I I in fact let me share let me be very open with you all as regards you know what I’m about so I
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put it um I I use essential oils a lot so I put a drop like an offering to the
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water andto the birds and then I went back to a place where I sit um on this
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Rock by this tree and I saw the birds lining up in a
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straight line to more than 200 I never saw that before they’re all like they in like
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they’re in the Army and there’s a sergeant major and this touched me and I’m still digesting
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that experience and that for me that had some level of healing for me that I can’t put words on so it is about these
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kinds of things especially around water because water is % of our being that I’m
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very devoted to discover more and in the stories that we would hear with
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participants in our community with members of our community I know this will grow sorry for my long- winded
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answer but anyhow well and I know you’re going to ask Lena some questions
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and I just was curious from the audience that’s here with us today you know we
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we’ve sent out invitations to people to join us to learn more about the child star in order to
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gain access to their subconscious mind and I’m just curious if you what is your
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question around that in the audience like what what would you want to know more about yourself or what health
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challenges do you have in your life or I guess one of the ways I put it is
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if you knew yourself better what would you want to get more
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Essence in your life of and if you just inviting everybody in the chat if that’s clear like while Rex is um posing some
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more questions toena to peel back the layers of what is the child star maybe
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people could share with um with us in the chat so we get a better idea of why why you’re here because I know later
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we’re going to also reveal an audience um a person in the audience from last week’s call and Rex is going to do a a
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miniature reading of their child star to give you a flavor of um what what it is
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and you’re going to get a little bit of that too with Lena and interacting with the questions that Rex has for her and
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how the child star applied to her so I’ll just make that invitation open for everyone what is it that you want to
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gain more of in your life by having a better relationship with your
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subconscious mind okay
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Rex it seems um silence rules so give it
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space um Lena let’s and and you know I think
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um of course some things make come up as as we go along so you know let that unfold how
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it unfolds um so because this evening I want to
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chat with Lena like um her children and she giving me she’s sharing their birth
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dates and I talking a bit and she can correct me or acknowledge or whatever
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and we just kind of explore things so people could get a again it’s like being in the restaurant people will get a
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flavor of certain um yeah um meals without getting in much into the menu of
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what you know the menu is but anyhow um so where shall we start um
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Lena it’s your you I don’t know things about the nin star I don’t remember so
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you I mean you can I can tell you my no no no it’s you just giving me birth dates it’s not you don’t have to tell me
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anything just giving me birth dates um I’ve got yes I’ve got three children uh
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one the oldest is born 31st of March 1990 the second yeah so you want all
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three of them no just we’ll start with one and and then we go to the other and
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okay so um and Jennifer is your daughter’s name right yes okay so
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Jennifer um 1990 and again just listen and you know their calendars about this
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and all those kinds of things will happen you know as time moves on but anyways but her daughter is a one water
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as an adult and the child star is the seven uh metal being born in March the
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seven metal is very much about Harmony it’s very much about an artistic
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expression it’s very much about um bringing Beauty in the world or
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finding ways of discovering Beauty for people this it’s very much a big um sort
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of how best to put it drive or um interest or
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motivation any comments yes it is like
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that um and that situation um has qualities of um the the
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need for like a kinesthetic aspect about it rather than just being in the head or
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intellectually playing with images or um
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shifting designs or whatever some part of it um there’s some need of a feeling
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needs to be involved like what I like a kinesthetic aspect to it yeah she’s very
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physical okay any any other comments about that because I mean I learn from these
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experiences I mean you would have seen other things as regards her art um and I
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know some of that from before because but I don’t know where she has reached now with any of that or no she’s in the
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film she’s in the fil her sister is in the art business but Jen is in the film business but I mean she talks a lot
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about beauty and love and sharing and Harmony she talks a lot about it and and
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she’s very unhappy if it’s not there you mean not there in the sense of
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in her work space or in her life or home home situation or or in relationships or
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whatever yeah yeah this is thanks for bringing that up that that whole as
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aspect of the harmony is very important for the seeven somebody with a seven
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metal child star um we see it of course the Expressions would be different for
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different people Marvin Gay carried a seven metal child star and the whole thing about what’s going on the whole
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thing with the environment all of that was such a large part of his music of
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course in a very different level um Frank Sinatra carries a seven metal child star and the whole ways of how he
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used his voice and the harmonics that he brought it and and how it needed to feel
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um about that I mean anyway I don’t want to digress into the but is it also lot
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of other personality sorry go ahead sorry is it also is it also regarding the feeling in her body is that also is
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it the same thing yeah there’s a feeling in the body but but um the the feeling
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in the body with the seven metal is also with what you’re doing that it it you know like bringing a good feeling with
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what you’re doing with what you involved in ra it’s very challenging well for
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most of is it challenging but it’s very challenging for a seven metal child star P person carries that to be doing things
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that they don’t have a good feeling with that’s very difficult like just you know like they’re just doing work because they have to earn the money but they
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don’t have a good feeling that’s very stressful that’s very difficult for her okay no no no I’m just sharing um
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that I don’t know if some people in the audience or some of our part you know who are here with us have any comments
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or who may anyway of course they may not know their pattern but anyway so that is very
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um present um with her um you want to mention one of your other children they
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with can I just say she’s pregnant now so okay all right so um so what do you
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want to share with that or what do you want to see without you how I mean if it’s anything I can tell her that that
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would be good for her and a baby aha okay um so the the key aspect with her
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because okay this is general and this would be kind of highlighted a lot throughout um
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these presentations um that we do over the months over the years or whatever
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when a woman is pregnant it is very important that her child star is constantly
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nourished okay that one aspect is is a is a key aspect because when that is
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happening and the second aspect with that um and I’m not going to go deep
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into it here this evening but the second aspect also is like um enjoying or um
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when having a meal that there’s some joy around it if even at times she doesn’t
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feel to eat or whatever but it’s like a little kind of ceremony or whatever
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because that also contributes to the oxytocin in the body okay because the
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upper digestive system um has a big correlation
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also with um facilitating more um oxytocin in our system so and this is so for all of us
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it is not only with a woman who’s pregnant this is always so but I highlight that um that aspect of
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restoring that so that that is one part and the other part is like the textures
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of the of the clothes that she’s wearing the the bed sheets the the um how it
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feels next to her skin this um she needs to acknowledge that and and rather than
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figure she’s being a primadonna like you know I need this or I need that no you need she needs to listen to that like
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you know I want something softer or I prefer this or that um that shouldn’t be
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put as you know like down lower down on the how best you put it on on her on her
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priorities having that as a priority and of course the choice is always hers how she wants to play with that but I mean
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I’m just giving some guidelines with that um the opportunity
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to um be in fresh air makes a big difference because the
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seven metal um carrying a seven metal child star that has to do with your skin but
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it also has a lot to do with your lungs so that fresh quality of air of course
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he in a city but you know going out to the countryside or going um somewhere where the air is
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better this helps tremendously um those are some my thoughts and oh and the key
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thing in these days where she sleeps no wifi I told her that already yeah when
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you’re not because this has a big impact on the baby and there’s some work done
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by um a German physicist Dr um Dr kleard kingart he’s on YouTube
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and whatever and he has done a lot of research and he has indicated that
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autistic children the high incidence is coming from the Wi-Fi where the mother sleeps in a room where the Wi-Fi is on
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like this has a big impact and in his scientific work he points out and this is part of um the
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aspect of the womb he says like if in the room itself um the Wii quote unquote
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frequency I’m talking random figures now is a 10 in a woman’s womb it’s a 200
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it’s 20 times that the impact that’s a which indicates that this space is a
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Sacred Space a woman’s womb is a Sacred Space it’s bringing creation into life
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so that whole part so kingart has a lot of that um I think we will look in some of the
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posts to highlight certain areas of information or certain places so so yes
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so that would be my those would be some thoughts that come to me at the moment with her as a seven the seven metal
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child star and Rex I just I have a question since is your your daughter’s
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name is Jenny is that right Jennifer Jennifer Jennifer um Jackie on the call
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and correct me if I’m wrong Rex but her birthday is September 17th 1966 it looks like she’s
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a seven metal child star as well as a onew 6 um give me the date again
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66 and I looked up I think she’s a seven metal child star um okay that that is the the year
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in which um 1966 would be a seven metal star that’s
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an adult star that’s the year but what his is the the month um September 17th
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so it looks like she’s a one one water the one water she carries a one water
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child star the seven metal is the adult star so I thought it was interesting because the it’s F it’s okay it’s a
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reverse situation compared to to Jennifer yeah it’s the opposite situation where the adult stars a seven
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and the child star is at one um I want to focus on the child star rather than
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and on the thing because my you know we and do not hear like that is not
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relevant but really with the orinoko flows Community it is about the child star because the child star is really
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the link to the subconscious mind as regards that’s great Rex because
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she put in there in the chat and Jackie I’m just gonna speak what you read
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um she she identifies herself as the slain healer and she’d like to
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understand how she can come more into her power and Essence without being threatened and defended and you’ll
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you’ll have to forgive me in my fatigue of traveling last night but I reversed it I was like oh thinking she was the
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seven metal child that’s okay that’s okay that’s okay I like oh the computer the computer was F on and and you know
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do the corrections it’s okay but I’m just curious around that let me let me point something out we um we’re going a
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bit deeper with um the conversation but let me point something out it it it um and we’ll hear more
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about this um from the lady burget when she speaks
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about with her children and how because there there’s something called the switching from the child star to the
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adult star and at times um especially when if
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the childhood been has been has been an abusive one or if the person’s parents
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died or they in a wor situation and I you know I mean War where bombs are
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dropping where you live or you know a lot of fighting then the child St
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becomes the adult star so at times um some people identify more with the adult
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star out of from trauma in their Early Childhood or whatever whereby they had
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to operate from their adult St because they had to start taking responsibility on themselves so this can happen I don’t
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want to get into that aspect here this even I want to you know keep it kind of very basic but there is that aspect and
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I can talk a lot more about that and I will but I just want to keep in this sort of flow with where we are and you
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know chat some that’s wonderful Rex because you you must had you must have had a telepathic connection to the chat
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and in the space because that was also what Jackie brought up as her second question was how can this be tied into
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pre and perinatal trauma and you just you just answered it and I know this is
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the whole point of the aspect of the community that we’re trying to build is to be able to put this kind of content
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out there for people to access of understanding how when the adult star has to come in and how you can repair
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pre and perinatal trauma by nourishing again very simple nourishing the child star
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the element of the child star and then these Essences that I know you’re G to continue on with Lena and give us some
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examples of what you’ve just done like with her daughter Jennifer sleeping with nice
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soft sheets that’s simple very simple Yes Lena um
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okay any um so and then your your son if
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I remember when is his birthday uh I’ve got a daughter in between Isa oh sorry okay
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okay that um I I’m not familiar with that with your daughter who’s in between
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and her name is Issa Isa Isadora Isadora yes and her birthday you met her when
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she was little actually she was yeah when you had a class here in Stockholm she was with us
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during the during the weekend she was like three two or three years old
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something like that okay 93 she’s born and in 12th of November 12th November 93
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yes so 12th of November 93 so 93 is a seven
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metal uh lot of seven metal yeah adult that’s the adult um aspect seven is
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playing here this evening I guess if some people are into the gambling they’re going to put
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that and then the um November would be your eight Earth child star so the seven
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with the eight um so yeah so that’s
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that’s a Sit situation with um with your daughter um with Isa so it
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Earth is very much the researcher the one who wants to
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they are looking at things they are studying things they
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the I’m reading libraries museums ancient
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stuff um at times not at times may not be that
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sociable do not hear like they’re not the eight um Earth child sty is not
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social enjoy social company but it can be at times um the need for like just
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being by herself or wants to read a book or wants to listen to something or just
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wants to go for a walk um only once not only for not only
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once it’s most of the time for her
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yeah wonderful wonderful okay she so she’s honoring her child I mean so the
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eight Earth is like that um and and do not you know and and they can have a
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I mean when they want to socialize they can be the fun of the party but at times when they don’t want
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to socialize do not try to push them it’s like listen I’m not going I don’t
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want to go and I will will not go so the eight Earth child stck and have that and
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one needs to honor that rather than like the child has some social dysfunction no
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the child doesn’t have CU that is how it would be read in many um schools and
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many things like the child is very quiet or at times it doesn’t want to play and they will put the child down as being
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socially dysfunctional the child is not being socially dysfunctional the child is honoring their eight Earth child star
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I was actually letting her stay at home from time to time when she was little when she was at school or in
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kindergarten she hated kindergarten and I mean she hated school too but I actually let her stay home
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from time to time just to reconnect with herself because she couldn’t handle that
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well yeah the thing with um the aspect well let me talk because I’m an eight I carryer eight child style let me and you
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too so the aspect with school it’s like um there are two
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aspects with it well for me let me talk for myself two one aspect is like the teacher who the teacher is and how they
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teach and it’s not so much about liking the teacher you it’s not so much like you know about the connection that you
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know the the teacher has to kind of give me a pattern but I don’t mean it that way but how they teach or how they
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present the information this is important and that and if the teacher
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can allow enthusiasm in you know like I as a
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student being enthusiastic with when he’s teaching or she is teaching fine
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but if the teacher puts you down as regards you know like um you
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know like you’re challenging the teacher because of all the
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enthusiasm end of studying that subject that that subject is no longer
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on the to-do list so this happens I I am speaking from personal experience whereas on the other hand um my
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mathematics teacher father life who this was a action-packed um way how he taught
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I mean it was physical you know he would squeeze your ears he would put his knees into your into your um ribs you would
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throw the duster across the room I mean it was but the learning and the capacity
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of what was going on like he used to switch on something because in that room stuff went on whereas when you came out
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of the room at the end of his class because it was like a action-packed movie you don’t remember what went on in
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the room but you you have learned something so I enjoyed his class very much but yeah and the stuff at times
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wanting to stay home yeah because if you know school you know like how they’re
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teaching or whatever is not on it’s like forget it I you know I don’t want to waste my time so well and may I say
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something to Lena I just really appreciate that you my daughter is an eight Earth
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child and she was the reason why I got into what I now call neuros
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psychosomatics um because I’m more of a psychologist than anything it seems these days but working through the means
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of the body but she was so stubborn she is I
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mean not so in past tense like she is very stubborn and I didn’t know this
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about her when in her young age and and all of our trauma you know I was a
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single mom and we had a C-section and in preschool it was really
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hard to get her to go to school and the teacher of the school got to a point
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where my daughter Audrey would be separated from the class on her own
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because they discovered that in the morning that was how she could regulate on her and then they would let her come
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into the class when she was ready ready oh that’s Beau but it was interesting
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because the woman who ran the preschool in my little church she had this
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insight and and rather than you know push you know because there are
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obviously you know there would be schools where that wouldn’t be allowed or tolerated to not conform with the
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group but they met that need for her and um I was blind to that in in my
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own Vortex of trying to get her in and out to school and all the pressures that
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were you know around getting to work on time and if I had
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known there are days when she’s just not capable of going to school and she needs
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to fill up her cup and now I I let her do that I’m like okay have a day home
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from school and she enjoys it so much she
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just like spends all day in this Imaginary fanty Land exactly and then
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the next day she’s just like this Bright Beautiful ready to give to the world again but it was a long journey for us
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to get there I wish I had had you earlier Rex yes Lena let me go ahead you wanted
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to add something to to that no it was Issa was very clear from very early in
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her life what she needed and wanted so it was I just had to listen it was like in kindergarten I had to put her in
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kindergarten and they they had this little leave alone mat so every time I
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picked her up from the K she was sitting on this little mat and when when one of the children was sitting on that mat
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none of the other kids could go there and take the things or whatever so every
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afternoon when I picked her up she was sitting on this little mat so I learned
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quite quickly what she needed actually and she also had a beautiful teacher in
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the beginning who who saw her first year and I mean she was sitting under the
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under the table in the school the whole first year she couldn’t sit on the chair and face the class as the rest of the
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kids so she was sitting under and she let her the teacher let her sit there it was
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beautiful and then she when she was ready she could climb up and sit on the chair and and and be with the others but
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it’s like being in the in a in a in a room by yourself in a way sure I mean
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this the the eight Earth is very the eight Earth is like being on the Mountaintop and kind of scanning the
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situation and like ah okay well I’ll go down here oh no no no no I’m not going anywhere I’m just going to stay right
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here and see what’s happening and maybe read or look at some other things it is
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like that the E child is like that and and I have myself had exp I didn’t I
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didn’t know that but when I when I was a kid and I was playing piano and I had an awful piano teacher and she went away
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because she got sick or something and I had this beautiful jazz player come to teach me and it was so fun about the
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enthusiasm that you were talking about and then when she came back and I was supposed to be with her again no way I
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stopped I quit no more piano because as you said you couldn’t
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Show Your Enthusiasm to the other old lady but to this man I could and when he
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was gone I couldn’t continue sure it is um yeah the a is like that
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that that pattern is there um and and it’s just like recognizing that then you
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you know recognizing how how best to put it recognize in that presence in your life
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that authentic presence and giving it room and space and finding ways to nourish it you’re on the program I mean
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you’re just flowing with things and you’re in the dance and and luckily for
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me on my side um my parents gave that space I think
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especially my father because um I stopped going to church um was to me only about dressing
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up and how people look and I somehow that didn’t register for me so I used to get on my bike and then ride to this big
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Park and look at the horses gallop and then I would buy they had around that
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they had coconut water selling or um bananas and I would um have one of those
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and then when I saw because there was a church close by when I saw the people coming out of the church I’ll get on my
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bike and ride back home like I went to church
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obviously where I live in Belmont the people would have told my mother or
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whatever and I’m sure my mother would have said to my father my my father just would have told her because my father
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didn’t go to church she would have just said leave him leave him leave him alone don’t bother CU you know there wasn’t
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anything about it but so that’s what I used to do from the time I was around about 12 cuz yeah Church didn’t work for me I
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mean it just um it was just all about dressing up I didn’t have anything so I prefer to read books about yoga or
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different things like that but yeah but anyhow well so I guess I you know I was
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a naughty boy I mean like growing up I um was just curious I know we had
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promised people to do a little miniature reading and yes sure sure
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s I’m chatting so much my apology no I the only not at all Rex in fact I’m not
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the school teacher saying like but rather that Maran is an eight
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Earth child star and she’s our guest in the audience so I didn’t know if now would be the per since we’re on the
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topic of eight Earth child I didn’t know it would be cool to invite Maran on and
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just maybe ask her what so um okay that’s eight Earth but when is what year
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she was born let’s see Marian did we I
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may have your information here on the thread rex or Sarah may know
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immediately Maran do you want to um unmute yourself I can maybe help you with that
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but there you go okay yeah thank you so
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I’m the 4th of March 1954 so March the 4th okay so that’s one
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one water with e Earth child okay so that’s very similar to my pattern so you
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have the one and the eight Earth um okay
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um so where you want me to begin because there’s so much yes um and there was a whole load
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going on there um what I find very interesting um when you said you saw all the Ducks sling up and you were
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integrating that well I have an issue with that with being able to
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integrate we say all that I’ve learned it’s all up here but coming down here
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um while I do readings and it works but yet for myself it’s blocking I’m blocking it in
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some way or something is blocking me okay and it affects actually me
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physically and healthwise as well now so what’s your challenge healthwise if I
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may ask um I’m going to have to get checked out after a lot of stress from
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grief and funerals there was food actually stuck here in this area here
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just under my ribs you mean the solar plexus area yes yes and food actually
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stock there that never happened to me before okay okay all right um okay so
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what what I just um there are many ways to go into this and of course it’s just
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a snippet of a reading a key aspect with the pattern that you carry the eight
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Earth child is to give yourself permission to be who you are and in by
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that I mean quote unquote and let me talk from myself
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personally he’s different he’s not part of the group he is whatever whatever um
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all of that and I know for a woman that’s more challenging than for a man
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but the reality is to embrace that is important as regards being your
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authentic self because if you attempt to how best it put you if you attempt to
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put yourself in the mold that’s a
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problem um at many levels um for you the the eight Earth um as you know as we
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have shared as Lena shared as Christiana shared about her daughter as I have
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shared you don’t do you know it doesn’t fit fit it just does not fit so you have
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to give yourself permission to allow that to be present but a key thing that I want to and I don’t have an answer for
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you but I have a key question for you what do you like to do or what what is
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um what is joy for you what what what you know what what carries passion for
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you and it doesn’t have to have any logic behind it um but anyway so it’s
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but what what is your big passion or what do you really enjoy what’s like brings the bright the bright eyes and
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the big smile on your face what would that be at the moment I’ve thought this
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through and I’ve been looking at it and trying to bring it out trying to looking for myself in that sense because when
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I’m passionate about something my eyes light up I’m like yeah I know where I am I know what’s going on but within the
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last eight years or so that’s just h it’s because all right so let me let me
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simplify that for you let me simplify that for you um okay yeah how I’m asking you is not really
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coming from here how I’m asking you is like a child going into a toy shop and
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it sees something and it grabs it that’s mine that’s mine I like that whether
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they’re selling it they’re not selling it this is mine and the child just gets all excited that is what I’m talking
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about I’m not talking about about anything okay um as regards you have to work it out it’s like that so it just
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kind of moves you to just give you an a sense and I think Lena would remember
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this it had there was a period um when I was teaching when I had the school when
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I would wear yellow socks I enjoyed wearing yellow socks I would always in
59:48
the class you remember that Lena I remember that so this was a fun that so when I
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had the class to do you know when I started to put on the yellow socks I
1:00:00
felt so good forget about what I was teaching I just was feeling good because I had yellow socks on it’s as ridiculous
1:00:08
as that and I’m telling the truth I’m not kind of making it up it was like that so I so when I had you know like
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the shiatsu weekend to teach so that Saturday morning when I put on that yellow socks it was just like ah this is
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going to be great and so it was and you know and and um so it’s in that way I’m
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talking about it giving yourself that kind of permission that I wore yellow socks for the rest of my life no but it
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had a period when yellow socks was you know a big part of how I taught not only in the school but also when I traveled
1:00:45
in Europe or came to to Ireland or was in Germany I was wearing yellow socks
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did you know yellow socks was was my signature line
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I I tend to do that now and then put on very strange clothes clothes that I like and it’s like you congratulations
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congrat do more of that that is very important I mean you know let people make their comments that’s their that’s
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their problem Mar yes that’s their issue yes may I may I have permission to share
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a photo um on the screen for you to see would that be okay yeah it’s um let’s
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see if I can pull it up can you see this oh
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yeah this is my eight Earth child daughter oh wow she’s beautiful love her
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clothes she’s wearing a pink tutu underneath her green velvet Christmas
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dress um with Dalmatian socks as you can see and red high heels and um I have
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learned to never question her clothing because it is a sense of
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true injury for her if if there’s any hint in my voice like what are you
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wearing to school today I cannot because it it wounds her like it literally I can
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see her withering away so I just learned to embrace
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this and oh that’s amazing I’m delighted for her I just when you said that about your
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clothes I do and I wore um purple lipstick um when we went out I was
1:02:35
really deep deep purple lipstick and at 68 you’re as you know and um someone went away that was
1:02:42
in the group with us and bought me a different lipstick so that I wouldn’t wear the purple one again but I will
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wear the purple one again and what I do love doing and thank you Rex for
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reminding me is singing dancing and playing music
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wonderful yeah wonderful so what type of music you like to play um I use the
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drum and I use the Rattle and I have I
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don’t know what to call them I just you know they’re just instruments that I have in the room and I reckon it’s a
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reminder for me to go back and start moving around a bit with what
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I have sure so it’s more like with the traditional Irish uh music and the the
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instruments that they use yes yes fantastic yeah this is my drum I painted
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this wow wow no bring it high up bring it high up let me see it more yes
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yes uh is there any way you could play a little something of that I don’t know Marian is that weird I don’t my playing
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is more of um keeping my mind
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quiet it’s it’s like from the heart I have a name for her um I haven’t done it
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from hold on a second hold on a second hold on a second let me slow it down let me slow it down you you starting to rock
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in the rocking chair I had I see that before this is so
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wonderful I do that when I play my Dr no no no no you you already shift the whole
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mood when you started to do that I didn’t realize you were in a rocking chair but when I because I’m in a
1:04:34
rocking chair too it is I’m not in a rocking chair it looks like you are when
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you move okay all right no no I’m in this is a type of
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this is the type of fun that we have at the Orinoco flows I mean this it’s so
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it’s alive the spontaneity of who we are as human beings and giving ourselves permission
1:05:00
to be who we are and the the Feelgood quality and how you you start seeing the
1:05:07
smiles and the bright eyes just coming alive as the person connects with their
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child star okay I mean it’s as simple as that and you you’re connecting with the
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with the subconscious mind because you’re opening up a whole the level of communication with yourself by accepting
1:05:27
yourself as you are and the universe then becomes you know um a place of
1:05:34
communication okay right that makes sense yeah that makes sense were were
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you about to play something when you were leaning um I’ll just give a very
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small sample of how I do this um
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okay
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this is on the Orinoco River now this is
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happening okay thank you you’re welcome thank you
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no no no that’s very special plus also to me hearing it it sounded very much
1:06:34
like it came from the orino Cod because there are similar beats with the indigenous people and in those sorts of
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areas with that and the the sound of your voice had similar qualities um okay so thanks for doing
1:06:49
sharing that with us you’re very welcome it was my privilege it is my priv
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thank you oh Rex I I have spontaneity is
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arising right now I just wanted to share with you Maran that um when Rex when you were
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sharing that and I was just having this somatic experience and Rex said this is
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happening on the oronoko one of the Essences that we’re trying to evoke in this whole community
1:07:23
of sharing is the magic of the elements and here
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you are an earth child and you use a drum and I know
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through my own connection with ancient wisdom teachings that the Earth you know is
1:07:41
symbolized by dragons and dragon energy and in the north you know the nordics
1:07:46
and the Celtics in order to evoke that Earth element they would beat
1:07:51
drums and one of my favorite bands is wardruna out of Norway or Denmark
1:07:58
somewhere up up up there but when you did that just then I just could feel the
1:08:05
earth does that make sense yes doesn’t have it can make sense but
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it that’s that’s the way you have your words about it and that that’s sense for
1:08:16
you so that’s great well Rex I know you um this is so
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true for early life like how we can tie back this type of healing outside of the
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box healing to how we can heal people from woundings that they they had in
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their in their early earliest years I mean even even in the womb like um but
1:08:45
just tying this all back together and I know you had Lena’s last child to go
1:08:51
through I’m just curious with that question present like how you tie in the
1:08:57
child star and no maybe Lena’s third child I don’t know if he’s had challenges
1:09:03
that that you address through you know nourishing elements of his child star
1:09:09
let’s let’s see hear what’s um I think that question is a cliffhanger into for
1:09:15
the next things because it’s um one I can go quite deep with many answers but um keep the question but let’s let’s
1:09:24
kind of complete here with Lena with um was there something else about EA you
1:09:29
wanted to say before we move on or no okay and then your son will Wimer is
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called his name is Wilmer call him will uh born 98 November 98 6 of November
1:09:46
98 so 98 the 6th of November November
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yes so um 98 is a is a two Earth year
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and um November we dealing with a three three three three um wood child star so
1:10:06
we have the pattern of the two and the Three Wood child star so the three um
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wood child star is about enthusiasm I mean if there’s no
1:10:20
enthusiasm with whatever is happening in the day then that’s a problem then because the
1:10:26
whole thing about life is happening and like needing
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to kind of be it run be it be to jump be it to but doing things and being
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Physically Active is important rather than just sitting so in a way it’s kind of like the opposite to the um EA it’s
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like going in an opposite direction and enthusiasm is a big part of whatever um
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he’s involved in and the physical activity about the body and and moving
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it and it being Dynamic all of these things would tend to be a sort of a need
1:11:03
or and a passion any comments about that I mean he was very physical when it
1:11:09
was little but now I mean he’s become very sitting still he’s very lazy and
1:11:17
it’s actually not good for him I mean it’s not good for him so I mean if he’s
1:11:22
not moving around he the body digestive system doesn’t work and all that so I mean and he knows it and but he
1:11:30
extremely lazy okay the extreme lazy situation because he carries the pattern
1:11:37
I’m getting into something deeper than we talking about because I’m bringing in his adult star the pattern with the two
1:11:44
to the three in that format what we dealing with is um an aspect of grief so
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there’s some level of of some challenge or something that has gone on for him
1:11:58
where there’s you know there’s some level of of of grief that has impacted
1:12:04
him and that at times can be um
1:12:10
unconsciously or can be conscious some family member um passing on that he’s
1:12:16
close to generally on the on the male side so generally like on your husband’s
1:12:21
side of the family some um relative or whatever and the the contact may not
1:12:28
have been much but sometimes that that may have an impact I don’t know if any
1:12:35
of that fits maybe his grandmother son’s mother maybe his