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Join Reeta Pohjonen and Rex Lassalle as they share their story about the 9 Star Ki astrology system and the healing it brings. Reeta is the principal of the Transformational School of Homeopathy in Helsinki. She also runs Shiatsu School Helsinki. She works with women’s health, births, hormonal issues and grief. She was born in Kemi, Finland and raised in Africa. She is the mother of four children. She has seen the whole cycle of life, from birth to death with her first child. She will share about this experience through the lens of her late son’s Child Star and also who she is in relation to her other three children. If you wish to discover more about your Child Star and how it links to oxytocin production in your body, please visit our website http://www.balancedbodiescst.com/orinoco-flows. Private reading sessions can be booked through the Orinoco Flows team.

Transcript:
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thank you very much Christiana and thank you Sarah and thank you attendees for
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this event on the orinoko flows the orinoko flows Community its
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mission statement is to connect women and their children and families to their
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child star element that is the focus that Focus arises from who we are
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from the time we born all ancient societies speak about us coming from the
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stars and that we all began that life began from the
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Stars whichever continent you look at whatever civilization you look at when
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you go back to the origins of us it speaks about that and then
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also duelers midwives psychics have mentioned that at
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that birth experience there’s a star there’s a Vortex that surrounds the
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birth so this is what I’m talking about with the child star
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element [Music] and before we get into the evening and I
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my chat with Rita and discovering what she has to share with us I want to spend a few
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minutes with us having a meditation because this whole process is
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really an inner process rather than something about acquiring something on
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the outside it’s really about a deeper connection that you are cultivating when
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you start interacting with your child star in fact it’s it is at the core of
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your subconscious mind so let’s take a few minutes and
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wherever you are where you’re sitting I invite you to have a sense of
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Letting Go the back of your navl just in your imagination no willpower just a sense of creating a
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sense of more space at the back of your Naval as we all know our navl is that
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link that we’ have had with our mother and that has a
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whole link straight along into the into your ancestral line we’re not here to
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talk about that this evening but that is being acknowledge by that sense of just
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giving the back of your nav that sense of space
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then also in your imagination have a sense of softness in the arches of your
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feet so there’s a feeling of feeling comfortable where you’re sitting where
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you are as you listen to me as we move
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now in our imagination to the orinoko river we are there
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now at the origin of the oroo at the spring where the water comes up there in
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Venezuela to start the beginning of the
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orinoko and once there I invite you to have a feeling of Letting
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Go letting go of your concerns letting go of your issues
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letting go of these ch challenges that we all have in life a sense of you in the presence now
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of a river that carries a healing presence it has been in existence for
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thousands upon thousands upon thousands of years and it has nourished
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all that have been around its been around its water has carried life and
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here now it is is doing the same for us as we allow ourselves to be
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present at the origins of the orinoko
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river I have connections directly into this as it’s
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part of my ancestral line and as I’ve done this research and
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study over the last four decades more and more of this has been
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revealed so since there’s an emotional and a
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spiritual connection that is very much resides
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there and that level of awareness about the child star is has been very much
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awakened from my childhood although it was never spoken about like
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that and yes that Letting Go
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occurs a new spacious opens in your
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heart a sense of ease flows along your spinal
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cord a sense of smoothness of breath calmness of
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mind and whatever it is or however it is that you’re feeling that there is that
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bit of discomfort bit of
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concern I invite you to let go I invite you to allow the energy of
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the orinoko to heal you to be in that
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process of dissolving those concerns and bringing you more into that Feelgood
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factor of who you are being alive being
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present engaging with what life has in front front of
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you as you start feeling a deeper connection with your subconscious
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[Music] mind and your child’s star you may not know what it is right now but being here
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you will discover and we will talk about these things as the community grows and
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we share deeper and deeper experiences about
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it let’s just stay in the
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Silence with that River with that energy with that
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healing and give yourself permission to allow healing experience to happen for
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you as that has happened in our previous episodes for
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some people in the attendance to the orinoko flows community
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remain with that softness of your breathing remain with that spaciousness
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at the back of your nav remain with that sense of comfort in the arches of your
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feet as I invite you to tun to wherever you are
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now for us to continue our evening as I chat with Rita and
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engage with you who are present here this evening thank you very
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much any comments from anybody any feedback from anyone
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before We Begin our
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chat I can say something I and I I felt so very much
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energy in the arch of the the feet and it was connected with the head for the
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stranger is it was like that the rest of the body doesn’t exist only head and and
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and and feet was connected and then this the sense that all all the things uh the
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the orino flow can can take all my problems and like to tell me don’t worry
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I take care about of it and uh don’t think about
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nothing the Sens so thanks for sharing thanks for how that was for you yeah my
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pleasure anybody else before I start chat starting
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with Rita no
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okay Rita thanks for being here thanks for your willingness to share with us
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your um experiences with the child star and I invite you
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to tell us about yourself um we we have
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mentioned that you know you’re homeopath and you have a school and um
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and a big part of your childood was in Africa in Ethiopia between 11 years of
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age and 16 so there’s a lot for us to share and hear about here this
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evening so begin where you wish to begin
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Rita thank you Rex it’s lovely to be here at the or
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inoo flow Community First of all I want to say
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that I’ve had a flu so if I start coughing don’t mind it’s just because when I
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talk so um first of all about the meditation we did I also felt this
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surrender and it was a really beautiful way to start the evening so thank you so much for that my
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pleasure so I have uh been in the world of ninestar
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key I think from about 1998 when my second son was born that’s
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about the time when I started studying shiatsu so
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um I have been doing shiatsu ever since and I’ve been studying with Rex and
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other teachers and we actually do have a shiatsu School in Finland now the shiatsu School Helsinki I also am a
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homeopath and I have a Homeopathy school as well and what is really de me is births children and um because I have
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four children myself and I gave birth to all of them in water except my first one
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they wanted to take me out even though I could have delivered but because I was a first a young mother giving birth for
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the first time so I loved the introduction of the water baby because I really felt so
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connected I just had a bath before this and I felt like I wanted to you know and I’m still really hot from the bath it
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was really hot and it was overflowing so I really felt at the at the essence of the yin energy to come here and talk
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about the child star thank you Rita
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um but within that you also have the highs and the lows and the challenges
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that went on for you and um um the aspect of your son amadeos your late
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son um if we can can you share about that how that was for you and what went
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on in that whole experience about his life and I I will add things about that
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also as regards his star patterns and whatever but please um share with us
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because that that is a very touching story that you have shared with me and I think it will inspire many mothers
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many of us as regards some of the challenges at times we have to face in life and how ways of understanding the
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energetics of a situation can create um new spaciousness
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and also blessings although can be very challenging so amadeos was my first son
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born in 1995 and when I got pregnant with him I
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was supposed to become a lawyer and go to the United States and study and all of these things and when he came into me
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it was like a light striking me and I fell and my cousin said like you’re
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pregnant and I said I cannot be you know but I was and from that moment on I
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went to maternal yoga I was 21 years old and I knew that um let’s let’s admit
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one person in so I knew that my life had changed completely that I had a big
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teacher and when he was 5 months old I started studying Homeopathy so I changed
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the way of my life completely and I went to Alternative birth I became a birth worker with the
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first birth and you know but then when he was little I knew he was a different
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kind of a child I couldn’t connect with him completely and and I must say that
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for 24 and a half years I studied everything to help him so he was my
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biggest teacher because he taught me everything I know so when he was 13 well
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let’s say a little bit earlier when he was younger he was diagnosed with aspergers and you know he was this kind
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of child that always said no to me whatever I tried so as a mother I felt that I don’t know how to be his mother
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he doesn’t want to sit on my lap whatever I try never goes well if I had
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not had the other children I would have thought I’m the crappiest mother on Earth and mothering was really my child
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star is number two mothering was my thing anyways but then when he was 13
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and a half he went into psychosis and he was diagnosed with bipolar and after
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that it was a big struggle to keep him alive for 11 years so I did
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everything and then he died three years ago okay just can we just slow that down
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a little bit Rita because some of this is that powerful and I know um for many women at times with
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some very challenging situations with their children or the
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the frustrations that they face at times what some of a lot of what you’re
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sharing now you have lived that and there’s a sort of a
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how best to put it there’s a wisdom that you’re carrying about talking about it
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that I just want to acknowledge as regards that because often times when
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these um difficult experiences face mothers a depression can start or many
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other sorts of conflicts can go on for them as regards their sense of
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inadequacy about being a mother and at times there’s another dynamics that has
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in a way nothing to do with them but who that child is and the child’s journey in
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this life and how that can be very different to how the mother is
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orientated or what she has been exposed to or things like that I just want to
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mention that as regards this because I know at times some of these stories that mothers go through is just
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a dent and it’s like well there’s no light here but there’s a lot of light in in these things if we can listen at a
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deeper level and realize that there’s a bigger picture to look at so it’s so thanks for giving me this opportunity to
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just slow it down a little bit Rita because I think this has a lot of um these
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aspects um in the birth experience and with mothers is a core part of what
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orinoko fls is about this is at the basis of it because these kinds of of challenges are
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creating so much depression so much frustration um and so many kinds of spin
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outs as regard psychological issues that a lot of things can be handled in a way of bringing a bigger a bigger canvas to
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look at what this is really about and that capacity is available at the
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Orinoco flows connecting with your child star I’m not exaggerating with that that
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is really how it is um and thanks for just being here yes I I do get emotional
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about this there’s no question about that I put my hands up but um you know that’s my passion of this whole aspect
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of this work go ahead RTO maybe I don’t know if Cristiano or somebody else wants to say
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something before I you know we continue I I do I just Rita um
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acknowledging I’m holding my heart and I’m glad that Rex called called a
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pause so much of what what you said resonates with me as a mother and I just
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needed to ground a little thank you Rex um I love hearing that there’s a bigger
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canvas so I’m I’m really looking forward to hearing what more you have to
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say sure no thank you thank you um no I mean I get you know as you’re talking I
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could feel the waves Just Happening as regards what’s we are listening to so I just felt hold on these waves are very
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powerful let’s kind of take a little break to kind of experience it a bit and
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um you know take another breath of fresh Year anyway thanks for giving me that
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opportunity to interrupt you Rita and um please
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continue so I must say that I have talked a lot about this and I’ve had a lot of help so
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you know for me to be able to talk about it kind of really and it’s only 3 years
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that he left is because 11 years was hell before
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he left I mean really trying to keep him alive he was always missing and he was
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doing all the things children shouldn’t do and I was a single parent to four children so I had three other children
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as well so and because when he
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left or let’s say a week before he left I feel he got healed he got enlightened
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and I got to have three days with an enlightened being he finally said yes to
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me he said yes to everything I suggested and I had given him a homeopathic dose of kryptonite 10m and I
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believe it did something because before that I was you know he got all the remedies in the world and he got all the
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treatments in the world naturally so when he left it was a surprise even
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he told me that he’s going to leave so I knew he was leaving but of course you
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never believe it until it happens and uh it wasn’t a suicide he
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died with practically nothing on his blood so I feel because he left on the night of the dios Muertos when the veil
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is thin he just transport it to another dimension and because he called himself
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Coco which is a you know the Disney movie Theos
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muos just um slow some of this down please um R if you may because there a
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lot of different details here with like key links energetic links in the
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experience um so you mentioning like three days before there was some shift
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that went on can you kind of give a few more details about how that was or or or
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how you recognized it or how was did that occur please he left on a Sunday
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morning and the Sunday before a week before I gave him the Kryptonite and
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what I noticed on Monday is that I felt that there’s a huge shift in him and the
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shift was that he was quiet he was very agitated before he couldn’t sit for even
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two minutes he wanted to show me all the movies that he wanted to show and he was
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looking at me with very gentle eyes from above with a special smile that I had
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never seen before it was like a smile mom I know and he was very tender and he told
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me how much he loves me and then he said I can still save a few Souls but I cannot save myself
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anymore so on a Wednesday he left to his father’s place and then after that I I
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never saw him again okay so those three days were very
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special okay and you spoke about him quote unquote saving others but not
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himself can you share a bit about what that was or how that was oh sorry sorry
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Rita maybe there are some things somebody wanted to say or some questions
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or something else before we move on Christiana you something you wanted
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to say or no and I think the chat is quiet now
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oh okay all right okay okay yes um so yeah the aspect
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about his healing others but not himself if you could um you know share about
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what that was or how that manifested so he used to talk to the
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dead that was his superpower so you know because he spent so much time in the
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mental hospital and always somebody died from there so he would take contact with them and bring the messages so that was
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one of his ways of saving plus he would give everything he would give his uh shoes if you asked him
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so he was the kind of like um a very generous person he felt that he’s here
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for other people not for himself okay and he carried the star
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patterns of the double8 is that correct yeah yeah
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okay um that okay the defining of his life through
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that that would be a bit of a distortion on my side although there are some Salient points around it that does link
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to it but once somebody moves into the area of psychosis the distinction that
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goes on within their subconscious mind and different things it’s it’s a different package you can’t really um
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you know look at plugging that in although there are aspects of it that would be there so the eight Earth child
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um star quality would have an a sense of you know things like um you know like
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the elderly people or people passing on or the dying or whatever that is a kind of a comfort zone for eight Earth child
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as regards um you know older people or things from the past that is part of how
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the E Earth child sty would have a easy connections but there are other aspects
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when one um has a psychosis this is something entirely very different that
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that disconnect that there’s a disconnection that happens then I just want to be clear about that rather than
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some people looking to put some of the information around child around such
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situations um anyway sorry go ahead soorry please allow me I I I know I’m
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spinning off in other areas but I’m just sharing I realize some of it is you know
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hasn’t been spoken about before here or I don’t think I taught some of these things but I’m just sharing yes four
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Decades of experience of looking at this with all kinds of situations so um go ahead Rita
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please so um to finish the story and then I’ll get
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to the somebody was asking about the child stars so then when he
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left I was actually at a dance um a
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healing dance the whole weekend which was about letting go about Metal element
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letting go so I danced him away I didn’t know he was dead but I had a weekend like this which helped me enormously
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because when I got the news I knew that I had already been prepared for for letting go but of course it was the
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biggest letting go of my life because he was my teacher he was my light he was uh
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he was my amados the Beloved of God so uh on the third day that he had died I
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went to see him and it was the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen in my
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life I wanted to see his chest he had long dreadlocks and you know the chest was
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the tree of life it was green turquoise all the colors and I knew he had left with his heart so open and he gave me so
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much peace because I knew he didn’t suffer and at the same time I kind of
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realized that I didn’t know him when he was here he was so much bigger than I knew I tried to make him smaller and to
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obey me and having the child star eight which is the mountain kind of stuck
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inside the mountain I kind of tried to mold him into something else than he was because
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I didn’t see him I didn’t see his light I saw it of course but I truly didn’t see it and understanding the child star
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eight which Rex can talk about a little bit more made me understand so well that
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you know because I knew about it of course I counted when he was smaller but I didn’t
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have the Consciousness you know we just had a few workshops about it he was just what he was he was always
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only true to himself and of course helping other people but you know there’s something that cannot be
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shaken about the eight and maybe you want to tell about that a little bit
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more okay well why you’re G you’re laughing about
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the unshakable eight we did have just to hold in your Fram of this a
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clarification because you mentioned that he’s a double Earth pattern and I put in
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the chat eight adult an eight Earth child star I did it again but Rita
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clarified that he’s a five Earth and an eight Earth child um so maybe you can
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just clarify for everyone as you’re framing this um about the five Earth and
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the neutrality okay all right um before I do that the unshakable
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aspect about the eight Earth um once the eight Earth has chosen
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something or decided about a path
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uncompromising okay um and that’s the story of my life so when the Mutiny
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happened I was arrested and whatever I was totally defiant in the
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court martial about what was going on or whatever that was you know unshakable but anyhow I’m not here to talk about
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that although uh Rita pop that in
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um the five Earth in the nin star key
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system um traditionally they link it with the different whichever pattern that the
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person is born with the other star they just connect them my experience and my research is
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that the five Earth has well it’s stated it’s stated very clearly there’s no
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gender with the five Earth so in other words there’s a polarity that is that it
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is looking at and it carries a certain spiral in my view a bit different than
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the other child stats I can’t prove this it’s just my my sense about it and if
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you look at five Earth years which this year is one of them it has a kind of a
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spiral where certain things can really happen very suddenly or shift very differently than what you may have
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expected it so it has this this capacity that it isn’t settled that it’s looking
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for like quote unquote like a partner or something to link to so there’s that part about the five
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Earth that that’s my observation about it then um but part of the experience
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also that anchored me or that pointed me into the five Earth Discovery was an
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embarrassing situation that my daughter had me in on an airplane flying from London to
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Paris um where we were chatting she was chatting
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to this lady who was on the same um seat you know next to her I was by the
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window and um she was chatting the lady and asking what she did and and then my
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daughter was telling her what you know the school she was going to and and all of that and then she dropped this line
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on the lady she said um but by the way I mean if you give my daddy your birthday
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he can tell you a lot of things about yourself and especially your health so here it is we’re going on holiday I am
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just there on the plane and I’m in this situation so anyway the lady
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um took the challenge and dropped it and then I said her pattern was um the one
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of um she she was a five and a seven that that was the pattern so then I
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started to say things about her lungs and things about her skin and all of these kinds of things would went on for
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her and the Le the lady said defiantly
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no that is not so for me so and my daughter looked at me like you
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know like what you like how could this be I mean you know so I was then thrown in the spot
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that I had to pull the rabbits out of the bag um in this situation and um so then it just spun in
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my head okay you know I put the two somehow it just came to me let’s go I I
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hadn’t studied it this way before but I just put the two in the center with the seven I knew the seven was feminine star
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so then I told the lady I said so then you have issues with your lower back and challenges with your sleep when you have
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a lot of stress going on she said yes very true very very true so that was the
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kind of um aarm moment for me so then I looked at it
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historically and I looked at Mahatma Gandhi who has who’s a 54 so that will kind of show he’s a
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person and he’s very UPS set he expresses rage that is not so he expresses sadness when the Hindus
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and Muslims started to fight he went on a fast and he was very sad and depressed I looked at Muhammad Ali
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Muhammad Ali is a 59 so Panic is this Panic is his disturbing emotion that is
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not so anger it is you know what’s my name Muhammad Ali and whatever so there’s a lot of anger so a lot of and I
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I listed a lot of that in my first book and nobody in the nin star key fraternity
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globally has challenged that and I have put it out there to them all the time
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and nobody wants it to say well hey they haven’t okay so that is it but
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historically it is listed that way and part of it I have to come back to my
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childhood my father had a mantra that he gave me very early in
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life I was around 10 when he dropped it on me I told him something and he says
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Rex you believe that and you believe that has been always a question that has remained with
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me when I read anything you believe that so and when that experience with this
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lady happened on the thing well you know I pulled it out the thing but then I
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started to look and I saw how it isn’t it it there’s another way of looking at it and so this is how the five Earth is
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her son amadas the eight Earth is an adult is a uh masculine child star so
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the five then joins a similar pattern um so it becomes a double8 earth if it was
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a woman with a eight it would still be a double eight it doesn’t matter about the gender of the
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individual so there’s that pattern so that’s a double8
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earth the was I talking to myself or was it because I’ve been told at times I
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talk to myself and I need a translator so um
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so any comments from anybody
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or no comments in the chat yet Rex we’re just okay that that was good tangent
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that you went on with the eight Earth um and I’m I’m sure Rita has more to share
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sure curious okay yes Rita go ahead I’m
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listening to what’s next that you want to talk about um from that I think I
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think uh when I heard that you know he’s born 1995 the year of the uh
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five that was quite soothing for me because we know them as revolutionary
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and we know them as not obeying to rules and as being a little bit different
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mhm at least all the fives that I know are pretty unique in what they do and the people that you talked about also
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and maybe the this revolutionary kind of and maybe it is the A2 I don’t know what
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it is but but I felt the five whatever I’ve I’ve learned or read about the five
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I it did resonate and definitely the eight as well so
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um yeah and okay and some of what you’re sharing or the capacity that you have
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for looking at you know the experience of dying and
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the insights you have um my sense you haven’t said that but um
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is that you know you were in Ethiopia from around the time you were
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about 11 years of age till you were 16 how did that impact you I mean because I
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think you saw you were there when the Civil War was going on in
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Ethiopia well will you be willing to talk about that or yes I can I can um
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yes um so actually in the 70s we lived in Tanzania all already so Africa was
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kind of uh familiar to me and then uh Ethiopia uh going there
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as an 11y old from the middle of Finland you know
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from practically nowhere I didn’t know the language I was called The Finnish girl who didn’t speak a word and I’m
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really and I’m really outgoing so on my sixth grade I didn’t speak a word but
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like we talked with Rex a couple of days ago my child star is number two which I
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said earlier and food is really important and we found out my mother’s child star is a number two as well so
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her way of showing love was always food she’s a nutritionist and I had a really
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traumatic experience in Ethiopia it was the time of life a so we had a field
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trip and I was 11 and we had to give food yes I’m a two child
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star uh we had to give food to the Beggars to the starving people and we
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could give only one bread and it was full of ants and I had just come from
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Finland and I saw a child being breastfed and die in front of my
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eyes and that impacted really strongly the fact that when I had my children I
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felt that I have to breastfeed because otherwise they die I did want to breastfeed too but for example my second
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son he didn’t want to breastfeed and I forced him for eight months because I thought because he had
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had stomach problems so I thought what else can I give him but luckily I was treated homeopathically so I understood
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because I actually didn’t remember this happened to me until I had my second son so I couldn’t remember it with my first
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son yet of course from the milk that is really traumatic you know to bring
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forward okay just can can I interrupt you here a bit so am I hearing
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then that the experience when you were 11 years AG
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with that trauma of what you saw with the baby
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dying had an impact upon you as regards some challenges that then you faced with
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your second son or am I projecting that well with the breastfeeding
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otherwise everything was good but you know there was something that he didn’t want to breastfeed and I felt that he’s going to
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die you know if I don’t breastfeed and and I breastfed like for example my third son for a long time and there was
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no problems anymore but maybe he brought it up you know and I remembered
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that okay hold on a second um please retail um this part because when I hear
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these types of stories like in a consultation with a client with a you
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know a mother or parent or whatever I sort of hold that because at
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times those things have dots in it that relates to some of the experiences that
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they having to deal with now and to sort of make a shift
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energetically around that at times can have an impact a WAV likee
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impact not only with that child or with that situation that within the whole family
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situation I’m just mentioning I’m highlighting some of these things because at times um in my work you know
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some people people ask you know you know like is this are you psychic I’m not you
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know but I pick up on things quite quickly but it’s like these are the kind
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of dots that I kind of look at as regards well what surrounds that and
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then look at the time it happened and ways of then um having that resolved um
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so anyhow so I’m just kind of I guess I’m yeah I’m in a teaching situation
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here this evening I realize because I’m kind of pinpointing ways that I work with these kinds of challenges or when I
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hear these kinds of things how I look at it or how I then would interact or stop
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and ask questions comments from anybody or yeah Rex would it be okay if I just share the
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image of the star patterns just while you’re in this teaching moment so we can
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yeah um okay because one of the things hopefully people can see
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this um that Rita mentioned that she’s a two child star and her son was an eight
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Earth child star and you as well and these both hold the the Earth element
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element but in this teaching moment that you have resolving
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trauma what you your advice are guidance
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that you gave Rita um and in your relationship the two of you had like around nourishing her own child star
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maybe using this story of what happened in Africa or even with her son I’m curious okay um this particular story I
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heard about it um just I heard about it before I think a while back but it
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didn’t register but I really heard about it yesterday when we were chatting and but I didn’t get get into
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any um quote unquote resolving or whatever but as she’s sharing some details here how she’s sharing it that
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with the second child the breastfeeding was difficult he didn’t want to breastfeed she felt all
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that I was hearing some um how best they put it I was hearing a kind of a narrative that
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surrounded some of the trauma from what went on in Ethiopia I’m not saying it did but I was hearing some of that
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aspect so then that’s why I stopped but just point out that I would look at this
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as regards something um some way of of exploring that that you know that kind
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of um element of um struggle or
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difficulty um in the relationship that may have some Shadows from that experience from in
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Ethiopia at times okay and at times just talking about it or bringing some clarity about it is 50% of dealing with
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dissolving it because it’s like you’re making it you starting to make it kind of present in a way that the person can
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have their hands on it or in a way to see it outside of themselves because I am talking about it so it’s no longer
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it’s like part of the narrative to look at so that times um just gives a new a
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sort of a sense of a of a fresh breath or as something that the the mother can
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be like ah okay I never realized that it could be a burden wow okay and he did
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okay yeah it feels lighter as he has spoken about it so some of these things can be just already clearing up a large
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part of the trauma just by that well I I I was struck Rita by what
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you said you mentioned a dance before or as your son was passing that weekend you
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were at a dance and you mentioned metal element and I’m just noticing here um
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just on the chart Where Metal sits um next to Earth and you were saying like
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letting go I didn’t know if maybe you could elaborate for us in the audience
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with what you meant by that yeah so the the feeling the the
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emotion of metal element is letting go and um because it was November and
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November is a season it’s the Autumn time which is about letting
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go and um so that weekend was about because it was based on uh Chinese
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medicine it was a it was a dance uh healing dance uh program based on and it
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happened to be metal element and it happened to be that um we yeah that yeah we were dancing
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that metal metal element and during that dance we really went deep into the Art
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of Letting Go so you know I was asking myself if I didn’t have children if I
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didn’t have my career if I didn’t have anything who would I be and that was my
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whole weekend and really not knowing that on Monday morning I’m going
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to hear that my son is so I think the universe was carrying me
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for being in this thank you yeah do people get that I mean what
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she’s talking about I mean the the whole aspect okay to be at times people say I’m a bit too
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blunt but okay the mental the Simplicity of the mental element being about
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letting go when we breathe in we have to breathe out so that is letting go the other
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aspect of the metal is the colon the large intestine when we have a good poo
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that is letting go so the metal element is about letting go I mean that’s how they you know if because I know at times
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people like to make things very esoteric I mean at times it’s very basic and very just common sense just simp Simplicity
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rather than um yeah because some people make some of these things so esoteric
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and so whatever and it’s just so down to earth and so just prac
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so anyhow sorry somebody wanted to say
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something or shall we go ahead or what’s well I’ll just do um a time check
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here since it’s 10 till the hour and I know that we have a person in the
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audience I don’t um with her star pattern that we are going to do a little reading with just after the hour sure
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and I don’t know if you let Rita know her her child
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star but it would be it would just be interesting to hear your input when we when we get there
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Rita um okay um okay you wanted to share some
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more um r or to move to um some other observations you have with your children
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or or where you want to go or where are you now from all that we have spoken
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about well one thing that I want to say about Africa is that it is quite normal
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that people die over there so you know being a seeing that in your life not
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only this kind but also on the streets and everywhere maybe made it you know more
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normal for me to face death you know and
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uh having worked so much with births because I go to birs as a homeopath I’m
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a maternal yoga instructor also now that my son died he also made me a death
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Dua so you know it is actually my best friend now because it’s the best way
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that I can connect to my son because he’s working with me all the time but he just couldn’t work here on this he’s
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working from Another Mountain now and
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uh and so on um yes the other
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children so um my second one ER the child star was
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it a seven remember okay sorry sorry um before we before we go there yeah okay
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okay before we go there because something in chatting with Rita yesterday when she was sharing about
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amadeos and she was speaking about the D dying and and then she mentioned something about a death a dying or death
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duer and I sort of vaguely heard that before but never kind of
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registered and then I shared with her about my father because my father wasn’t a
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religious person but he went to so many funerals he would dress in Black U um
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you know on afternoons and some weeks you would be go at least one sometimes
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two funerals in a week and he would come back in the morning around 4:00 or 5 in the morning
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from the wake and then he will get up and go to to work at
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8:00 and he he had very little to say about it except you know you bury spirit with Spirit which meant that they drank
51:45
alcohol and things and then he you know that was one line and but there was nothing else that was and I start to
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realize hold on he’s a death Dueler because what was he doing in these all
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these funerals because he wasn’t a religious man and he would and you know I talking
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about I mean some years my father would have gone to easily 40 funerals which
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had which had nothing to do with a relative but just people he knew that he would have gone
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to and yes my father is very much arounded in
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my life no question about it there are so many different situations when I could just feel his presence where he
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shows up with certain symbols um no question about it and part of part of this um event
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about orinoko flows is that his mother was from the Orinoco so this is one of the beautiful
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things about this community is that in our sharing and in our chatting we learn
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so much about ourselves and I am learning so much more about the child
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star from um from doing this so thank you
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RoR there was a question here okay yes r as well I would love to hear directly
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how you first connected with Rex and how you first learned about ninestar key yes
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um I think I talked about it in the beginning maybe you came a little bit late but it doesn’t matter so I started
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studying Shia 2 in 98 I think about the time of my second son when he was born
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I’m pretty soon my teacher who is Rex’s um student also from Finland was
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teaching us the nin star key astrology so I’ve been doing it in my work in my shiatsu training and Rex has taught
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numerous times at our school so that’s how I’ve been working and yes I found it
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really really helpful knowing the stars and uh and uh now the new work with the
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child star which I didn’t Focus so much on but Rex just recently came to teach
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at our school about the child
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star okay do we want to go to the other child star or how are we with
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time it’s about yeah it’s about three o’clock um so I don’t know we have um
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Karen on the call if she’s still around we can open up your there you are Karen
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hello I um sent you Rex her birthday but maybe
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Karen you can open up your mic and let us know what your birthday
54:37
is and where you are in the world right now because it says that you’re on the monin land I just be curious to know
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where you are well I’m in Charlottesville
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Virginia Karen is my given name but um and I actually swam in the
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oroo wonderful lived in karakas for you know probably eight years of my
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life when I was young and um had a transformation in the
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Orinoco River and not that many people you meet probably can say that so I’m
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happy to be here and it’s partly what inspired Christiana to ask me I said I’m
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on monikan land just because I’m a master naturalist of we do talk about
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the monin nation here which is one of the few tribes that was one of the first
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tribes discovered here in the new land and that never got moved from um they
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were never moved off of their ancestral land unlike you know really 99% of other
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nations and tribes of the First Nations here so that’s why we put that we do put
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that there and we’re working very hard to make a better relationship with that
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Nation on Whose land we are sure thank you and and if I may ask
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so what is the distinction that they had that particular tribe had that they
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never moved was there some aspect about their approach to life or was there some
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aspect about the rituals that was different no there actually is nothing
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quite like that it’s just that they tended to create their villages we have
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a chief Town very close to Charlottesville but on flood Plains of the James River or the Rana River um and
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they all of their early occupations were covered over by floods so they would
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just move to the highlands but it’s not a particular ritualistic group as far as I can tell
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um it’s mostly material okay but the river is the one that made the
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difference ah but the James River has been described as the highway to the early years of
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this of this country as once it started being recorded sure so sorry forgive me
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because the eight Earth is already curious about these ancient things let me come off that let me just um deal
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with the sorry about that folks but um I guess you just see certain things when
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you’re in these situations where people go with their questions um okay so your birth day if I
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um that’s in June 1957
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yes okay and you could mention the date in June I um it was the 10th the 10th of
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June 10 thank you all right um 1957 is a seven metal um star year and June of
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that year is a Forwood star so the Forwood star which is your child star
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which is where I’m going to you know kind of chat about the tone of the voice
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of your parents or of your teachers was a um a key aspect of your way of
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distinguishing um how how your relatedness with that person would
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occur um so sound and voices and um and
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just the the whole aspect of like the atmosphere of the the energetic
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atmosphere in an in in in an environment had a big impact upon you
58:48
and the so very much like um the wind with the leaf so it’s very much like you
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like a leaf with the wind you pick up on on certain experiences or you pick up on
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certain vibrations and you can see a lot from just what you hear or what comes to you
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and the capacity with your dreams can at times be prophetic I’m not saying all
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the time but sometimes you may dream have dreams which has nothing to do with your personal life or your IM immediate
59:24
environment but which may have an aspect of a global quality about it um um
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this can happen randomly the period between like 17 to
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about 24 25 years of age was a very volatile time for you with a lot of
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changes um and yeah going through some very
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challenging and difficult and lots of you know change of directions and all of that um any comments about anything that
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I’m said so far Karen I’m thinking about the tones of
1:00:07
voice and I wonder if that extends to spiritual authorities or spiritual
1:00:13
Spirits in fact yes it it for sure it can have another erate on one level um
1:00:20
on the mundane level it has that aspect but the the another aspect to the
1:00:26
forward child whereby its receptivity to the to the Unseen World is very
1:00:34
heightened and um and and this can have a a quality of
1:00:41
distortion for the child especially if it was growing up in uh in if the your
1:00:47
childhood was one of a lot of conflict around you with your parents or with even with um siblings this can happen
1:00:55
whereby you pick up on certain sort of um other levels of receptivity start
1:01:01
occurring for you and some of that can be quite um dramatic or even with a lot
1:01:09
of Al State experiences that you could have
1:01:14
had just the last part is relevant but I did not grow up amidst a lot of uh
1:01:21
expressed conflict okay no I I I don’t know I I’m my capacity to to sense that
1:01:29
I am not I was just kind of making it in in a general term but um the so the
1:01:35
forward um child star has that very inspired by poetry or by certain
1:01:45
songs um that can move you quite easily or memories of
1:01:50
certain types of plays or theater or certain teachers um and what the quote
1:01:58
unquote mantra for want of a better word is some of these things can have a a deep resonance for
1:02:06
you that is true um I have the signature of an
1:02:12
artist in my astrological chart yeah no no the um the four the four wood child
1:02:21
star is very you know carries very much of that type of energy of of a of an
1:02:27
artist of a creator of um taking things in molding it into another way plus the
1:02:35
the the capacity that you have with your voice to influence or pursuade people is
1:02:40
very profound um you know for you to be in some
1:02:48
meeting some environmental meeting um and you stand up or or you
1:02:55
say whatever it is you say it it it resonates with people at a deep level it’s not just words something else
1:03:01
happens in the room you carry that kind of authority a seven metal adult star
1:03:06
also would be looking for the harmony looking for um better experiences in the
1:03:12
environment you know Greta tanberg is a is a double seven metal the Swedish
1:03:17
young lady with the environmental aspect um she carries a 7 um Marvin gay um with
1:03:26
his what you know what’s going on on his environmental um sound he’s a dou s so
1:03:32
the sental the aspect of the environment carries a lot for them so you’re um
1:03:37
that’s more in the the the adult expression I mean the focus with this
1:03:44
orinoko is about the child sty although I will as the community opens and next year I will be teaching more about those
1:03:51
other aspects but yeah so anyway those um those are some things to share
1:03:57
with you um that comes up for me to share but I’m always learning so maybe there are some you want to tell me about
1:04:03
that I have’t mentioned
1:04:09
um let’s see I guess the only thing I would say is um growing up
1:04:16
overseas uh and also being born into a family of left brainers when I’m a right
1:04:23
brainer clearly or any way you want to put that when I’m a creative spirit I
1:04:29
have never fit anywhere I never anywhere
1:04:34
so that’s my freedom but it’s also sometimes my
1:04:40
burden um the wind has has taken you many
1:04:47
places um the the quality of also not fit
1:04:57
in can at times have like two parts that you are going in one part you have your
1:05:05
you you have like a persuasion to go in a certain direction but yet within that
1:05:12
something else can happen for you whereby you go in another way too um so that level of spontaneity can be there
1:05:19
for you which I I think now is in stable
1:05:24
place with yourself but I think earlier on in your life at times that could have been you know but I thought I was going
1:05:29
to do that but look I’m doing something very different now or whatever I think some of those things might have gone on for you earlier on in your life I have
1:05:38
had probably five different careers okay okay okay and and the last one was as a
1:05:45
college professor but also have written but also have sung but also yeah
1:05:52
so um well thank you for that I I’m not exactly sure how these things go and I
1:05:59
never heard until today really until Cristiana was telling me about it yesterday a little bit about the star
1:06:06
key the nine star key system so I’m I don’t exactly know what else to ask but
1:06:13
um it’s very interesting reflection no but um you can ask
1:06:18
anything because it’s about life it’s it’s not it it’s not locked away somewhere else I mean like how I talking
1:06:24
about it or how I’m engaged with it it’s very much about making it present it’s an ancient system and I just you know
1:06:32
when the information started to thing I just connected with it a large part of it is because
1:06:38
of the 100% education I had in my life was from my
1:06:44
parents they could read the science at 100% accuracy wow all the
1:06:52
time and my my mother used to tell me she say Rex if you think I am good at
1:06:57
this reading signs your granny was something else she was at another
1:07:03
level and and I’m my I’m the son of my
1:07:10
grandmother influence of no no I’m not because when my mother was pregnant with me she was a chief censor officer in the
1:07:16
war in Trinidad and it’s my grandmother who looked who cooked for my mother every
1:07:22
day who when my mother came back from being because she was working for military intelligence so when she came
1:07:28
back quote unquote from the war you know Granny was the one who would sort her energy out or whatever
1:07:35
she wore um gold bracelets 22 karat gold bracelets and she would ring
1:07:41
them and yeah she carried um
1:07:46
knowledge she had 13 children so I I’m I’m her son yeah my mother carried me
1:07:52
but I’m my grandmother’s son so so she has W me up with these kinds of ways of linking with these kinds of ways
1:07:58
of looking at things um this is what I meant about the question about spiritual voices because there was a lot of
1:08:05
esoterica floating around in the breras and Loa you know but I was a
1:08:12
stranger being blonde and blue-eyed so I was always known when I was in I couldn’t hide so I had to just ask
1:08:19
questions and sometimes there were answers and sometimes it was beyond you know my comprehension but there was
1:08:26
a very definite um I I sort of have a feeling inside of the environment you’re
1:08:32
talking about and the atmosphere so I do have one question which is
1:08:39
um is there a way to know in this year presently if if anything is Shifting in
1:08:48
other information I have um this this coming year is one of shifting a lot of
1:08:56
internal um directions or is there a way of knowing that that’s reflected in this
1:09:03
reading um Karen the there can be it’s not an area that I
1:09:11
have really dug into I mean so in my work with clients with students it is
1:09:19
really about guidance and it’s really about emotional
1:09:26
psychological how best to navigate certain things so that is where um my
1:09:33
focus has been rather than prophesizing anything or predicting you know I’m not
1:09:38
really coming from any predictions because I’m always of the view that with a clear mind and with a
1:09:46
skillful way of living in in life if even quote unquote there’s Destiny ahe about an accident there can be a way
1:09:53
that it may not have such a big impact upon you because of your skillful way of living your life and creating Harmony
1:10:00
around you so anyway so there’s that part as regards what you’re talking
1:10:08
about um about a change for sure I mean that’s my sense I mean there’s something
1:10:15
that there’s a lot of polarization in the world now just without getting into any po politics about that but there’s
1:10:21
just a lot of polarization but yet within that there’s something else that is happening there’s you know
1:10:27
like what we talking about here what we’re doing here the the getting together to looking at things in a in a
1:10:34
fresh way so a lot of that is happening and um and certain friends from different
1:10:43
places you know when they speak to me about what they’re observing around them although there’s a lot of challenges
1:10:49
they’re also seeing like a kind of a new new possibilities and new ways of of of
1:10:55
engaging with things and the The Leverage that quote unquote the areas of
1:11:00
power have doesn’t seem to have the traction that it had before because
1:11:07
there’s another there’s something else that has happening that I can pinpoint that from
1:11:13
this to say this particular star or that I can’t that would be you know I because
1:11:21
it hasn’t been I haven’t approach this topic from that angle I’ve approached it
1:11:27
more from Health well-being um Family Children mothers
1:11:35
that kind of you know from that way so I really although it may seem strange
1:11:43
being a man having led a mutiny being in prison being all of that that I am now
1:11:49
just dealing with mothers and children it’s my comfort zone because you know my
1:11:55
granny and my mother and whatever you know they gave orders and I have followed the orders so
1:12:01
yeah generative yes and Karen I must say
1:12:07
and and Rex to follow up Sarah put in a good question here in the chat and it’s
1:12:13
also a good way to wrap up with with Rita because I’d really like to hear Let me read Sarah’s question and
1:12:20
then I’ll I’ll finish with how we can ask Rita the same which she’s saying Rex
1:12:27
as a three child star I can really emphasize with that sense of change in
1:12:32
my early life and it feels good Karen that over time you have found your passions is there something rexs that
1:12:39
you have found can help us three and four would child stars to continue to
1:12:47
create more Harmony and you she also mentioned that there’s another three child star in the
1:12:53
group tonight so engaging in this the whole point of the oroko flows is to
1:12:59
have simple rituals that you can support your child star and I don’t know what
1:13:04
you would lend to Karen and the Three Wood and